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11:02 pm
April 22, 2011


elnasif

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USA

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Ahlan maya, thanks for your kind congrats, 

I did research in neuroradiology, but didn't really go anywhere with it, i just volunteered to help with data collection ( and put it in residency application). Research experience ideally means “I'm published”, even if it's not done in the U.S., however, if you did assist in any research (in data collection for example), you can still put that on your CV (since it shows you're interested in research, but be prepared to be asked about it on interviews!). 

I didn't have any significant clinical experience before residency (i.e. like doing a residency outside the U.S.), I only had a few months of rotations (which I mainly got through my transitional year residency) and a couple of letters of recomendation from US radiologists.

Yes I was offered interviews even before matching into the transitional year ( 3 out of 113 programs I applied to! this later increased to 5 out of about 72 programs when I was a transitional).  

Bottom line- any research experience helps, and try to get U.S. letters of recomendation 


Important: Your standing in medical school makes a big difference! in addition to getting high USMLE scores, getting honors/ high marks in medical school can help (like being top of your class). There's alot of reading in Radiology and being a nerd is a plus!


Sorry about my email ( i thought it was available on the website): emam_16@yahoo.com


Wa Allahu AlMusta3an


nasif 

Elnasif Ahmad UMST ‘06 DMC, Detroit, MI

10:25 am
April 22, 2011


maya_

Member

posts 7

Wa-alaykum alsalam elnasif,

Firstly, I'd like to extend my sincerest congratulations on the residency position! I wish you all the best this coming July, and hope you enjoy it thoroughly, inshallah.

I have questions regarding research and clinical experience, any information will be appreciated if you don't mind me asking. So, what kind of research did you do, and at what university? Would you say the research experience helped when you applied for residency, or does it have to be published to be of value at all?

Also, did you have any clinical experience before residency? I'm under the impression you matched for the transitional year first, then applied for Radiology in the same program and matched there? If yes, what kind of responses did you receive from Radiology programs initially, if you applied to them. Were you offered any interviews? I've been under the mistaken assumption that you had to match in both programs simultaneously. It's good to know you can match for internship separately, and then continue on with your chose speciality.

I don’t believe you left your address, but thanks for the offer of emailing you. I posted my amateur questions here so you may benefit others in the future, too. :)

Thank you very much.

12:36 am
April 17, 2011


reemomara

Admin

posts 8

Salamat Elnasif,

milliooooooooooooon cogratulations..so u got a radiology spot :)

I did not know that u left California..are u done with the researh??

goodluck..inshAallah Biltawfeeg :)

9:11 pm
April 14, 2011


elnasif

New Member

USA

posts 2

Salam maya, 

It's exciting to see someone planning for a radiology residency in the US so early-on in medical school. I will be starting residency at wayne state in detroit InshaAllah this July. Attachments in the US will boost your application, and you should also get letters of reccomendation from the radiologists you work with. This, in my opinion, is probably more valuable than UK experience. Research done in a US institution is the biggest plus, but the most time-consuming, as this usually requires you to be published to have a big effect. Research published anywhere else is also good. 

I didn't have any publications, but (AlHamduliLah) had good scores and got to know the residents and some attendings (consultants) at my program while I was doing a Transitional year residency there (a 1 year internship- you have to match for this seperately).


Bottom-line: US research/ experience/ letters of reccomendation > UK experience  

research (overall) > experience , but should ideally get published


Feel-free to email me also, and thanks for your interest 

elnasif  

Elnasif Ahmad UMST ‘06 DMC, Detroit, MI

2:53 pm
April 10, 2011


R.M.M

Member

posts 22

 usmleforum it is good forum you will  find nice and friendly people,i'm  a mom and i couled't get high scores without thier help and sharing.

2:40 pm
April 10, 2011


maya_

Member

posts 7

Rania Musa said:

@mya

 i used write in other forums they share as much informatin as possible not just for you or me but for everyone reading the thread.

Good luck


I registered on prep4usmle.com yesterday, I also browse studentdoctor.net regularly.

Do you have any specific suggestions?

Best of luck to you too. :)

2:37 pm
April 10, 2011


maya_

Member

posts 7

Hey,

Thank you very much for replying, salahabusin.

I'm thrilled to learn there is in fact someone from Sudan who's matched into Radiology, that's terrific new. Please let me know if you receive any reponse from him/her.

At this point, I am only considering the UK if it will make me more competitive. But yes, “صاحب بالين كضاب”. Thanks for the reminder than I need to stay focused. :)

2:25 pm
April 10, 2011


R.M.M

Member

posts 22

@mya

 i used write in other forums they share as much informatin as possible not just for you or me but for everyone reading the thread.

Good luck

2:11 pm
April 10, 2011


salahabusin

Admin

Chicago

posts 185

i asked a radiology resident in Detroit to answer your specific questions.

As general advice, i think you should make a decision whether you want to go to USA or UK. balancing both is very difficult. “صاحب بالين كضاب”

if you are in UK, you will have to work the system by doing their exams, excelling amongst your peers to get the position. if you have USA on your radar at the same time, you might end up losing both.


for USA, i can tell you that regardless of speciality; you must work on getting >90, preferably 99. and although British Citizenship helps you enter and exit USA; that is where it ends. any british degree, experience you might gain will be canceled out by late date of graduation; should you choose to go to UK first then USA.


it is clear that you are an early planner; so i think what you should work on is making that decision of whether to go to USA or UK and just stick to it.

The above is entirely a personal opinion; so please take it as such.

12:59 pm
April 10, 2011


maya_

Member

posts 7

Hey,

Thanks Rania Musa for the prompt reply!

Yes, I will require a work (J1) visa for residency, like everyone not a US citizen or a green card holder. I know about the visa waiver program, I've been to the US numerous times. :)

I mentioned the UK citizenship because it will make foundation training a logical step after graduation. I was wondering whether going that route first to train for a year (F1) and to have the FRCR under my belt will be advantageous, or in fact work against me.

The programs I've looked at mostly have AMGs, the few IMGs seem to have done residency in their home country first! Radiology is a highly competitive field. I know I will need to do research, have USCE and other qualifications aside from my MBBS and step scores. I don't think the latter two will be enough standing on their own on my application.

11:53 am
April 10, 2011


R.M.M

Member

posts 22

 Hi

 I don't know about radiology but  try to apply with in 3 years of graduation, i'm also Britsh citizen you need work visa like everyone. but it is easer to get visitng visa you can get 3 month at port of entary.

11:38 am
April 10, 2011


maya_

Member

posts 7

Hello everyone,

I've not been able to find a topic on Radiology, so I've decided to make one.

I'm an aspiring Radiology applicant-to-be who understands the nature of competition in this field. However, I'm still planning to apply for Radiology only. Has anyone matched into Radiology here who can help provide some guidance?

I'm currently a 5th year medical student in Sudan. I intend to rotate at some US hospitals with Radiology residencies next (final) year to get some USCE.

As a British citizen, I'm contemplating heading back to the UK to train for a year and to sit the FRCR part 1 examination, I hope to also get my hands on some research. Will added training and the FRCR give me any advantage, or will it be wiser to carry out a year of Radiology-related research in the US?

I have not taken any of the steps yet, so do not have any credentials to show for. I know they will need to be stellar!

I realize I'm asking a lot of questions. I'm hoping someone here can provide me with some information to increase my chances of matching.

Thank you very much for your time.

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